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The Rare Women Exchange returns this year as [community profile] rarelywritten, and has now been thrown open to all characters who fall outside the rubric of cis-male. Announcement, FAQ and Important Dates are up.

Please consider nominating/requesting/offering your favourite under-represented characters from marginalised sexes and genders. Given the hit count requirements, all non-cis-male characters among the Ancients should more than qualify.

Date: 2015-01-18 02:13 pm (UTC)
naraht: Moonrise over Earth (Default)
From: [personal profile] naraht
Given the hit count requirements, all non-cis-male characters among the Ancients should more than qualify.

I've been idly wondering who would qualify under the new criteria, apart from the obvious cis female characters.

Bagoas, almost certainly?

Nikeratos, possibly? "When I put on a woman's mask I am a woman; I could do nothing if I were not. There are two natures in most of us who serve the god." But I'm not sure. There would be ways of writing him that might be within the spirit of the challenge and others that definitely wouldn't.

Date: 2015-01-18 02:56 pm (UTC)
naraht: Moonrise over Earth (Default)
From: [personal profile] naraht
Niko, I dunno. As you say, one can fit it into the spirit of the challenge, but theatrical gender performance is a slightly but significantly different thing than everyday gender performance.

It's not so much the theatrical gender performance - a man simply playing female parts and enjoying it, I wouldn't consider at all eligible - as the way that he conceptualises it. He seems to be saying to Axiothea, who fits more clearly into the space of trans male or genderqueer (insofar as ancient Greeks ever can), "I am like you." Of course you could put this down to a cis man making a poor analogy. But it seems to parallel the way that Renault elsewhere writes about people with "two natures" (Leo and her Inner Boy in Friendly Young Ladies) as well as talks about her own gender identity.

Having said that, this may all be too extra-canonical. Since I don't plan on requesting or offering Niko, I should probably save it for the book discussion!

Date: 2015-01-18 04:50 pm (UTC)
greerwatson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] greerwatson
"I plan on sticking to cis-women, actually"

Me, too. I get where they're coming from; but I had no problem with it being [profile] rarewomen. Surely, there ought to be a place in fandom for an exchange for canonical women as well as one for "othered" people of all sorts?

Still, it's their exchange.

Date: 2015-01-18 07:58 pm (UTC)
lilliburlero: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilliburlero
This may induce me to make nominations and offers I will regret horribly.

Date: 2015-01-18 10:07 pm (UTC)
naraht: Moonrise over Earth (Default)
From: [personal profile] naraht
I was hoping so! ;)

Date: 2015-01-19 06:58 am (UTC)
lilliburlero: (ferret)
From: [personal profile] lilliburlero
[personal profile] naraht, [personal profile] toujours_nigel, you callous pair of enablers. *g* There are 3 people from different canons I'd like to nominate (a couple of them not Renault), but that doesn't include Axiothea, if you'd like me to. (Colonna's covered, right? Tell me Colonna's covered.)

Date: 2015-01-19 03:11 pm (UTC)
naraht: Moonrise over Earth (Default)
From: [personal profile] naraht
I believe Rarelywritten gives you up to five different fandoms, so you may be OK anyway.

It would be great to see Axiothea nominated. I'm definitely covering Colonna. (This makes me think I should post about the exchange in [community profile] renaultx...)

Date: 2015-01-21 10:04 pm (UTC)
fawatson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fawatson
Let me know if you cannot nominate Axiothea because then I will.

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